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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 5:06 am    Post subject: The best article I've seen in a long time! Reply with quote

You guys have to read this, it's about some comments Ron Clarke made. Cool Laughing Very Happy Wink

Drugs to balance the playing field? I tend to agree with the author on this one. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, DG, for the article. I would like to see Clarke elaborate more on his comments. I feel Hollobaugh's comments and analogies were too simplistic in nature.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He says that drugs should be used to balance out the playing field because some people are more motivated and work harder? That is the exact reason why those people deserve to win. You can't let people take drugs because they don't have the time to train... or they just don't have the motivation to sprint the final lap of a race.

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Clarke is right, but perhaps has the wrong reason. Altitude? So we need drugs to catch up to Adam Goucher and others who were raised in thin air? No. The real problem is that the victory stands are dominated by talented athletes who have worked harder than the rest of us. And until everyone starts taking drugs, people like Clarke will just have to complain about the unfairness of it all.


He's saying that people who don't work as hard should be rewarded... You shouldn't handicap the best runners because they put more effort into it. I think this article is way off the mark and Ron Clarke seems to be sour grapes about how the Africans are deservingly better.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand what is the difference between taking "illegal" drugs to enhance performance and having better training facilities and being able to heal up quicker. No one in the world works on an even playing field. Some are more talented, some workout in better conditions, some have superior training staff. There will always be "illegal" drugs and the athletes will always be 1 step ahead of the testers. Who decides that one drug is illegal and another is legal??? Some suplements are banned in some sports and not in others.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those comments surfaced a month or so ago on the t-and-f list and provoked some interesting responses. One point raised was that Clarke's position assumes only those who are less talented will use or benefit from such aids, which is completely ludicrous. Why would the top athletes allow their edge to be removed when they too could turn to supplementation.

I figure the answer to this riddle lies in one of two things:

1) Ron Clarke is a complete moron.

2) There's much more to his comments than were reported.

It's a major mistake to assume legalizing drugs, even "non-harmful" ones, would level the playing field, just as it is a mistake to assume banning them does likewise. What it does is remove the veil from one of the excuses, but there's no guarantee everyone would have equal access or willingness to use what it takes to succeed.

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