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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2002 4:06 pm    Post subject: Who really works and trains harder......? Reply with quote

The Sprinter or the Distance Runner
Well to me i think the sprinters work harder because there alwayz tryin to get faster and stronger, sprinters alwayz have to work on there technique and they really work hard doin these workouts, sprinters alwayz lift weights, sprinter are more easily to get injured and get cramps, like my work outz during the week as me being a sprinter consists of
4-Warmup Laps
Stretching
3x50ms
5x200ms
2x100ms

And u have to run those hard and all out at practice.......
So i think sprinters work harder than distance runners...
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2002 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few thoughts:

1) This isn't the most productive of topics. Anyone who wants to be good works equally hard, and there's no way to quantify the work that goes into success in any given discipline. All that can come of such discussions is a lot of baseless assertions and misunderstandings, with a good chance of name calling and hurt feelings.

2) Keep in mind that when posting a workout such as the one you listed above, that tells us nothing about relative difficulty without knowing the pace, recovery, and fitness level of the athlete involved. I could do that workout without hardly breaking a sweat if I wasn't concerned with pace. Wink I had my sprinters doing a 25-30 minute warmup that was more taxing than some of the workouts they were used to.

3) While not too bad, please make an effort to use proper grammar. One of my big pet peeves is netizens who insist on typing with slang and being too lazy to type full words or make a half-hearted attempt at proof reading. If you want us to read and respond, make it worth everyone's time to do so.

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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2002 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No...please...don't let me fall into this trap...sprinters v. distance runners?

I feel it happening...I am fighting it...I'm slipping......

Typical weekend for Ann Trason, 45 miles on Saturday and 30 miles on Sunday.

I'm sorry Dan...I couldn't help it Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2002 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I'm a smart aleck in spite of myself. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2002 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you know it. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2002 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right about this not being a productive topic. As we have said many times, you have to work hard to be good no matter what your event is. Sprinters and distance runners both run very hard workouts, just different.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears to me that SuperSprinter was trying for some humor which didn't go over so well. Everyone else was right about trying to compare sprinting with distance running. From the "energy systems" standpoint alone, almost all sprint training has to be done from complete recovery, whereas that wouldn't be the case for distance training.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2002 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know the answer ot the questoin is really simple .... The gold medallists work the hardest !!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2002 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not so sure I'd agree with that... Is Marion Jones the hardest worker out there or simply the most talented by a wide margin?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2002 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is hard to say But........ I agree with Dan

I know a lot of kids who work really hard but they are as talented as a pack mule and every time they race a race horse they lose.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2002 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not only that but as several of us have said before training hard isn't always training smart. I think this is a lot more true for world class athletes than it is for your average Joe. Mainly because the world class athlete is working on the edge of human ability, where as the average Joe usually couldn't even see the edge using the Hubble Space Telescope, and so simply increasing the work amount, either with volume or intensity will help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2002 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan wrote:
I'm not so sure I'd agree with that... Is Marion Jones the hardest worker out there or simply the most talented by a wide margin?

Dan


Well my asumption was that we were talking about males ... Far too may variables on the women's side ...

And as far as the elite level ... It is rare that someone could become elite on sheer talent .. The levels are far too high for that to occur ... High School definitely talent can prevail ... College, perhaps ... But at the elite level talent is but one block in the foundation for success ...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2002 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah Conway but I think that the point is, even at the elite level, that its not always the person who works harder who wins.

Yes it is more evident the lower, or younger, the level of competition but I believe it happens at all levels.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2002 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And as far as the elite level ... It is rare that someone could become elite on sheer talent ..

Agreed, but what I was getting at is more a shade of grey than a black and white issue... It talent and hard work are both on a scale of 1 to 10, athlete A might rank a 10 for talent and an 8 for hard work, while athlete B might rank a 9 for talent and a 9 for hard work. Taking all the other myriad of variables into account, who's to say athlete B will win due simply to the harder work? That isn't to say that athlete A doesn't work hard, just that their superior talent may be difficult to overcome.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2002 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh ... But now you are adding a new variable ... Winning (although maybe I inadvertentlly did that) .. Winning has a whole set of variables all its own ... For example, talent wise I would have to say that the two most talented 100 sprinters are Ato Bolden and Oba Thompson ... Yet Mo Greene has been the dominant force over everyone since 1997 ... Now he and Ato train together so the hard work part has to be a virtual draw ... Ato having more talent should therefore by definition have all the medals .. Yet Mo does ... Why ??? Intangibles ... Heart ... Will to win ... Desire ... The unquantifiable ... Wink
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