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Conway · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:05 pm Post subject:

Does it help if I say it is European heavy ?!?!

Dan · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:57 pm Post subject:

I haven't given up on it, I just haven't researched yet... Wink

Dan

Conway · Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 3:16 pm Post subject:

Well you're running out of time ... I'm bursting at the seams to let everyone know .. Smile

Conway · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2001 11:37 am Post subject:

Tic tick tick tick .... Wink

Justin · Varsity Joined: 08 Oct 2001 Posts: 312 Location: London

It's the women's 100m from the 1998 EC in Budapest:

Arron 10.73
Privalova 10.83
Thanou 10.87
Pintusevich 10.92

Justin

Conway · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2001 9:11 am Post subject:

Justin is absolutely correct ... I posted that one because all of those individuals are still competing ... Most are still relatively young ... And i think that since the "invincibility factor" for Marion may have been breeched this past season, I would expect that one or more of these young ladies may be capable of rising to the fore ...

I've been waiting for Arron for a few years now ... And thought her coming to the staes may have bee the move that would do it ... Especially given Miller's improvement when she went to HSI .. But apparently that didn't work ...

She seems to have the most potential, but Pintusevich and Thanou sem the most competitive ...

But i Think this race does show the potential for the Europeans to be an improtant factor in this event ... And possibly dominate if Marion and company don't get it together ...

Dan · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2001 6:40 am Post subject:

Whew, I'm off the hook. I can save that thinking expenditure for something else now. Smile

With how fast that race was, has their been any Atlanta or Tokyo-like talk of the track being too fast?

Dan

Conway · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 9:07 am Post subject:

I've heard no talk of that ... But doesn't mean there hasn't been ... Personally I think all of those athletes were capable of those times ... I think they are capable of reproducing them ... Most have ... Privalova, Thanou and Pintusevich have all run faster ... Arron is the only one who has yet to duplicate ... And her relay performances suggest that she can ... I think what that race shows is the power of psychology ...

I think Marion Jones is slightly better than these women ... But only slightly ... Marion should have a lot more losses than she has had over the past few years ... But I think these other women are mentally blocked when it comes to her ... Especially Arron ... I think Arron has the potential to run 10.68/10.69 ... She runs screaming relay anchors and closes as well as anyone ... Maybe better than Marion (I know blasphemy but watch her sometimes, she is smoother at her top end) ...

But after Merlene beat her in Europe prior to the worlds in 97 ... And then Marion came back and won the 97 Worlds she became THE WOMAN ... And I think they have all believed it ... Even though she just edged Pintusevich for the gold in that race ...

I'm waiting to see if Pintusevich's reversal of that this year signals a change in women's sprinting ... As it may have eliminated a psychological barrier for some ...

Dan · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2001 3:11 pm Post subject:

Marion has definitely had the aura of invincibility for the past 3-4 years, but I have a slightly different interpretation of that situation than you. I see those other 10.7-10.8 women as having pretty much maxed out in that race, whereas Marion is capable of running at that level on a fairly regular basis. Sure, some of them can challenge her when she's off form, as Edmonton showed this year, but it seems to me that Marion's lack of 10.6-10.7 form of late has largely been due to a lack of competition. Had those other women mainted a sub-10.8 level, I don't think we'd be seeing barely sub-11 performances very often from Marion.

I do agree, however, that others such as Arron and Pintusevich are much more technically sound sprinters and certainly deserve credit for their ability and accomplishments.

Dan

Conway · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2001 9:13 pm Post subject:

Hmm ... I might agree with you if none of the women had approached that level again .. But all have run faster except Arron ... See I believe it is Marion who has peaked ... She ran her best times when the others were running the same as they did this past season .. She has come back to them ... Her competition hasn't gotten any poorer, she has ... Besides ... If it were a case of competition, running unimpeded should allow her to flow and run up to her best !!! Wink

The others are all much more sound than she is which is why they are able to continually run close to their best times when they need to ... If Marion has another percentage drop this next season as she has the past two, then she will be running for a medal other than gold in the next World's ... And I will stick my neck out now and say that if Marion does not go under 10.80 again next year, she will suffer more than 1 defeat during the season ....

Dan · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2001 12:07 am Post subject:

They've all run faster than that since? I thought Pintusevich was the only one that had...

Conway · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:00 am Post subject:

Well you pretty much named all the main players .. I agree that there were many distractions for Marion last year ... But seems to me that would have shown more in fitness - ie poor training due ot the distractions ... Marion "seemed" fit last season ... It's not like she went all the way back to 11.00 ... She did run 10.85 ... I just think she peaked a year or two ago ... Remember, she had to go to altitude to get under 10.70 ...

Time will tell, but I think the others are in her league ... They just have to believe they are ...

Thanou would do well to get out of Greece and compete more ... She is a firey competitor and I believe would get fster with more competition ... And make some money ... Arron just needs to get healthy and run a lot ... Miller needs start work to compete in the 100 ... She reminds me of Calvin Smith ... Just a little too short to give up as much as she does at the start ... But strong enough to run a very good 200 ...

My gut just says this will be a transition year in the women's sprints ... Smile

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