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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Baking soda Reply with quote

I was researching supplements when I found this stint on sodium bicarbonate, better known as baking soda.

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Energy production via anaerobic glycolysis, which is particularly important for events lasting between 30 seconds and 15 minutes, increases the acidity inside the muscle cells and very soon after does the same to the blood. It is this increase in acidity within the muscle cells that is a major factor in producing fatigue in such events. If there was some way to reduce the acidity within the muscle cells, one could theoretically delay fatigue and thus continue exercising at a very high intensity for longer.

Sodium bicarbonate is an alkalising agent and therefore reduces the acidity of the blood (known as a buffering action). By buffering acidity in the blood, bicarbonate may be able to draw more of the acid produced within the muscle cells out into the blood and thus reduce the level of acidity within the muscle cells themselves. This could delay the onset of fatigue.



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notice all the "may" and "could's" mixed in? It's been talked about for years, but that seems to be about it. I'm not aware of anything conclusive, and the only time I've seen it actually used was quite comical, as the guy was foaming at the mouth (on hands and knees) for quite some time after a race.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing I would add to Dan's statements is that it would also throw the sodium-potassium balance in your body completely out of wack.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: Baking soda Reply with quote

Fry the Sailor wrote:
I was researching supplements when I found this stint on sodium bicarbonate, better known as baking soda.

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Sodium Bicarbonate
Energy production via anaerobic glycolysis, which is particularly important for events lasting between 30 seconds and 15 minutes, increases the acidity inside the muscle cells and very soon after does the same to the blood. It is this increase in acidity within the muscle cells that is a major factor in producing fatigue in such events. If there was some way to reduce the acidity within the muscle cells, one could theoretically delay fatigue and thus continue exercising at a very high intensity for longer.

Sodium bicarbonate is an alkalising agent and therefore reduces the acidity of the blood (known as a buffering action). By buffering acidity in the blood, bicarbonate may be able to draw more of the acid produced within the muscle cells out into the blood and thus reduce the level of acidity within the muscle cells themselves. This could delay the onset of fatigue.



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According to The Lore of Running, there has been studies that did confirm the beneficial effect of baking soda.
This is tricky; however. If I remember correctly, you would have to eat about an ounce for every 2 lbs of your body weight (please correct me – thank you in advance). You have to do it (please correct me again – thank you in advance again) about an hour before the event. You are risking severe stomach upset, and thus dihydration.
This is why, in the studies, it helped (if I do remember Noakes, M. D., correctly – please check on me) only about 60 % participants to improve their P.B.’s, and only over the distance of a mile – the study with similar results was repeated successfully only for the mile.
My guess is that the distance is too short for the stomach upset to occur, or the following it onset of dehydration.
Baking Sod is like coffee (or rather caffeine) it works only in a specific manner, and it is playing with fire.
Yes – you can improve your time over mile with baking soda, but you may suffer from severe stomach upset and not finish the race at all as well.
Yes – if you run in between the same pace and the same effort over a middle distance, and you are aiming at an improvement of let say of 10 seconds over 2 miles ( 5 seconds per mile, or let say 7 seconds over the 1st mile, and 3 seconds over the second), you will be more likely to do it, if you train well, and use caffeine. However, if you drop below the same constant effort, you will walk the rest off the race because instead of falling to your knees from a standing position, you will drop to your knees from a foot high bench.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly did sound wacky, or we'd find energy supplements w/ baking soda Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is IMPOSSIBLE to drink. I put some in a glass of water and almost threw up the moment my lips touched it. Any ways to ingest this demon? I abosolutely must run at least one session on baking soda to see what it's like.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best way to abuse the baking soda is to eat the baking soda with a tea spoon, and drink water only after swallowed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok I managed to take it. Haha loved the way you wrote that sentence. "Abuse the baking soda." Laughing
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