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Kishan Gill
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am surprised conway what with your vast repository of stats that you have ovelooked the fact that the IAAF have categorised ezinwas and bryzgins times as questionable.

Thankfully in the vast majority of meets contoversies rarely arise and the chances of track descending down the toilet are very low indeed.

I am posting my views on a forum to encourage a lively debate which I feel I have managed to do here. A little controversy always helps to keep a forum going as that is one of the points of having one in the first place.

The fact that we agree and disagree is the whole of fun of it but sometimes I feel that my comments can be taken a liitle too seriously (which normally should be a good thing) but I will not hesitate to admit that I lack the same technical knowledge of the sport that you and dan possess and I always find it a pleasure to be sparring with you guys and hopefully learning a thing or two along the way.

I may come out with some complete b******s sometimes but I always endeavour to make sensible assesments and love to stir up a little controversy to liven up the debate.

And yes I still feel Fasubas 9.84 is controversial pending future performances.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offense taken. Everything was posted with taste. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read in an American T&F write-up the following:

"... ran 9.76, an apparent world record. Problem was that the timing company guy, a speed skating specialist, did not know all the intricacies of his own equipment -- and when a follow-up reading was done, which happens in any world record, the snafu was found..."

So, the gist of the problem was that the timer didn't know what he was doing. Stellar.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan wrote:
No offense taken. Everything was posted with taste. Smile

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None taken here either ... I love a good debate ... Been at NCAA's all week ... Will have to post on that in the next day or so ... A bit tired right now .. Had a late night BBQ ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just like to make two comments about this week. Firstly powells run. Did not think it would happen for another decade at least but a 9.70 -9.72 seems very plausible from this man.
I hope he stays fit and can carry this level to next year for the worlds.
just how fast can you get?
sub 9.90s just do not seem to raise eyebrows any more. We have entered sub 9.8 territory first legally broken by Mo possibly on a regular basis.

On the NCAA. Xavier carter, what a talent. If I am correct no one has ever done a 100m/400m double in these champs before, let alone anywhere else. It takes exceptional talent to be at the top level at this range. Makes you think what could be possible for carter in the 200m.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carter's double was the first ever at that level. Very impressive, but I think a bit too much was made of it, given the caliber of athlete. He was clearly the best in the field in both races, and running the 100 first doesn't sap the energy too badly, at least not for a well conditioned long sprinter.

Powell's latest time was a pleasant surprise ... for my Fantasy squad. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome race from Powell, but I honestly don't see him going any lower than 9.75 in his career. I just feel that he has maxed out ALL phases of his race on Sunday and that was as good and relaxed as it gets (I give him 0.02 faster for the track surface).

Powell & Gat have been pretty fortunate with the wind in their WRs (+1.6 for Powell's first 9.77, +1.7 for Gat's 9.77 & +1.5 for Powell's second 9.77) unlike some of the WR(s) of the past - Gat could've had a better start in Doha, putting him at 9.75 but who is to say that if he did get a better start that he would've run quicker?

I see the only improvement from both Powell & Gat coming in the conditions (how much better can they get than the heat & wind of Doha & Gateshead???)

I agree with Kishan that sub-9.90 don't really seem to have the significance that they did some 3-4years ago (even up until last year!) as we are moving into deeper territory in the 100m (even though the WR has 'only' dropped by 0.02 since's Mo's 9.79 back in '99)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we have definetely moved on to the next level, just as we watched ato and Mo churn out sub 9.9 on a regular basis in the late nineties onwards but Mo definitely the better of the two , Gatlin and Powell have taken it to another level and the prospects of a showdown between the two this season and in the future will provide a new impetus for sprinting and help to repair some recent damage to the event and track in general after the montgomery, chambers , white fiascos.

As for chambers, he has returned as the best UK sprinter, which just sums up the state of British sprinting these days. I think he should be given another chance. He screwed up and he admitted as much. He will not get a chance to run in the olympics again which is punishment enough.
I doubt that he will ever recieve accolades at the highest level, maybe feature as a top ten sprinter for some time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

X King wrote:
Awesome race from Powell, but I honestly don't see him going any lower than 9.75 in his career. I just feel that he has maxed out ALL phases of his race on Sunday and that was as good and relaxed as it gets (I give him 0.02 faster for the track surface).

Powell & Gat have been pretty fortunate with the wind in their WRs (+1.6 for Powell's first 9.77, +1.7 for Gat's 9.77 & +1.5 for Powell's second 9.77) unlike some of the WR(s) of the past - Gat could've had a better start in Doha, putting him at 9.75 but who is to say that if he did get a better start that he would've run quicker?

I see the only improvement from both Powell & Gat coming in the conditions (how much better can they get than the heat & wind of Doha & Gateshead???)

I agree with Kishan that sub-9.90 don't really seem to have the significance that they did some 3-4years ago (even up until last year!) as we are moving into deeper territory in the 100m (even though the WR has 'only' dropped by 0.02 since's Mo's 9.79 back in '99)


I tend to agree ... Not much room left for improvement ... Though there is slight room left in Gatlin's start ...

As for British sprinting, we'll have to see what Chambers does next, but sad that he can sit out two year, yet those running daily have yet to improve !!!!!
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