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Dan · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:25 pm Post subject:

They got rid of the exception(s) altogether? Was that part of the move to cut down the size of fields?

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Conway · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 5:01 pm Post subject:

Maybe I'm wrong ... But as far as I know they haven't had exceptions for a while ... Now I'm second guessing ... I'll have to check it out ... When was the last exception you are aware of ???
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Dan · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject:

I think they still had them in 2000, but I can't remember if it was for the Trials, the Olympics, or both. Confused

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Paul · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject:

If my memory serves me correctly, there are only exceptions for the WC's. None for the OT's or OG's except for coaches' discretion for the relays. Conway would be right as far as being smart to exercise his options, but does Greene even have a 200m qualifier this season?? If so, obviously I missed it.
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Dan · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:31 pm Post subject:

That could be where I was confused.

What's the qualifying window? I think they generally overlap seasons to some degree, so he may have a qualifier from last year.

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Conway · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:17 am Post subject:

There is a time period for qualifiers that goes back to last season ... I think it might be 12 months or something like that ... So yes Greene has a qualifier ...

I just think it won't hurt him to have an option - even if he decides not to use it ...

And as Paul said, only the World Champs will allow you in without a qualifying mark ... And that is only if you are the defending champion in an event ... And that has only been since '97 (done to get Michael Johnson into the meet as he was unable to compete at Nationals due to his 150 meter match race injury) ...

I printed out the Trials list last night ... Interesting the number of people who have yet to declare that they will be competing !!!!
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X King · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:38 am Post subject:

The trials are close...is anyone nervous???
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Conway · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:23 am Post subject:

Anxious more the word ... Its interesting ... I think we are deeper in the sprints than ever ... Yet at the same time I feel like there are only a handful of guys that are really ready ... The sprint teams should be:

100 - Greene, Crawford, Capel
200 - Capel, Crawford, Patton
400 - Wariner, Washington, Willie

But you KNOW that something is going to happen ... Lots of somethings ... And that is what makes the Trials so interesting and exciting ... Everyone is already in town ... And the buzz has started ... Lots of track in the paper and on the news ... Time for the show to begin ...
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Indeurr · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:36 am Post subject:

I believe that the qualifying system at the world and Olympic level is a mess.
In my view, there should be three qualifying standards:
B -- one athlete per country only
A -- up to three athletes
S -- "SUPER" -- additional two athletes per country on top of standard B and A
S -- standard should be based on the worst season best of the athlete who made the top six during the last world or Olympic championships in the year of the last world or Olympic championships, respectively; or may be set half--the--way between the A--standard and the world record in the given competition.
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Conway · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:03 am Post subject:

I agree that the qualifying for these events is rather limiting, but I think I would approach it in a slightly different manner ...

I would give automatic entries to the top 10 performers from the previous season ... And I would define top performers as those with the best 3 meet averages ... I would think that most athletes would compete in at least 3 meets ... 5 or 10 might be a stretch for some events, but I think everyone can make 3 ... So I would give those individuals automatic entries ...

Then you could simply follow the system the way it is - with the current A & B qualifiers ...

I think it would make both the Olympics and Worlds super high quality and unquestinably the best meets ever ... You would ensure the potential that every final would truly have the BEST athletes in the world going head to head ... Instead of a partial list of top athletes ...
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Indeurr · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject:

___I believe that at the international level there should be three levels of qualification, not two. There should be level B allowing one athlete from a given country to participate, level A allowing up to three athletes from a given country to participate, and level I -- International allowing up to 5 athletes from a given country to participate.
___The "level--I" should be set a very high level. In my opinion, it should be set at the level of the athlete with the 6 th world wide SB from the previous year to the world championships or Olympics.
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Wind: 2.4 m/s

1 COLLINS Kim COM 10.10 0.153 8

2 LEWIS-FRANCIS Mark GUEST 10.27 0.155

3 CAPEL John USA 10.28 0.189 7

4 SCOTT Leonard GUEST 10.30 0.149

5 GARDENER Jason GBR 10.34 0.194 6

6 CAMPBELL Darren GBR 10.37 0.158 5

7 WAUGH Ainsley COM 10.41 0.175 4

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17:16 - 200 METRES Men - OFFICIAL RESULTS
Wind: 1.7 m/s

1 POWELL Asafa COM 20.28 0.137 8

2 JOHNSON Joshua USA 20.50 0.169 7

3 MALCOLM Christian GBR 20.53 0.183 SB 6

4 PATTON Darvis USA 20.59 0.160 5

5 LAMBERT Chris GBR 20.67 0.185 4

6 WILLIAMS Chris COM 20.98 0.183 3

7 VAN BALKOM Patrick EUR 21.10 0.184 2

8 HOOGMOED Guus EUR 21.11 0.176 1

Conway · Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:49 pm Post subject:

Looking at these results confirms my earlier feelings about the sprints in Athens ... One, that Collins will not be in the mix for a medal and may not make the final ... And Two, that Asafa Powell is going to be a threat in both sprints ...
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Dan · Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:18 pm Post subject:

Collins had a big margin of victory, though. The modest time can't really be held against him in that case.

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