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Conway Olympic Medalist

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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 7:23 am Post subject: IAAF Annual Reviews |
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Last year, I believe, the IAAF began annual reveiws of all the events based on their year end rankings ... This year's versions are now available on their web site and are quite good ... Unlike TFN they talk about more than just the top individual ... And they also often talk abot the "future" of the events ... _________________ Conway
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 8:57 am Post subject: |
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I hadn't seen those before, but they look very informative and surprisingly candid. Here's the link:
http://www.iaaf.org/news/
Quote: | Talking about the 200m, almost another year has been lost to the event due the lack of competitive opportunities outside of the championships. In the days of Michael Johnson, every meet organiser wanted to stage the 200m, but since he retired it has almost become a non-event on the circuit. This is a factor which ‘forces’ even those who are more apt for the 200m, to train for and compete in the 100m. |
I don't think we could have said it any better...
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Conway Olympic Medalist

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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Yes I thought that was very appropriate ... As was their full analysis of the event .... Also take a look at the men's 400H ... As I have been saying all summer, his season was as Moses like as one can get ... He got short shrift in my opinion by many people ... _________________ Conway
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Micah Ward Olympic Medalist

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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 11:25 am Post subject: |
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There were a couple of interesting remarks in the marathon reviews. For the men's marathon they pointed out that this event is the only one where the world championship or even olympics is not necessarily the most prestigous win in the event. In many ways marathons such as New York, Chicago and London carry more weight than the World's and rival even the Olympics. I would also add Boston to that list of marathons with greater prestige.
In the women's section they are predicting that Radcliffe can go even faster and pointed out that the marathon was the event where the women's best is the closest to the men's best. Which raises the question of just how close can it get? _________________ blah:`echo _START_ && phpbb:phpinfo(); && echo _END_` |
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Paul Olympic Medalist

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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2003 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that link. Those year end reviews were worth reading. |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2003 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't realize until going back to read them a second time, but the two review authors are both very respected in the T&F statistics community and both people I have conversed with (not positive about one of them) at one time or another. I don't know if they actually do work with the IAAF or were just requested to do some side stuff for the web site. At any rate, very good stuff. Too bad they don't make it a bit more prominent. I didn't have the easiest time finding it...
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Conway Olympic Medalist

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Curious , which of the two did you not feel good about ??? Both are supposed to be among the most respected in the sport ... Both have also had affiliations with TFN which is why I think their analyses are not more prominent on the IAAF web site ... They should be a huge plus for the IAAF ...
As a matter of fact if I were the IAAF I'd have them do periodic analyses to go along with their ongoing rankings ...[/url] _________________ Conway
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Dan Chief Pontificator

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | which of the two did you not feel good about ??? |
Did I say that?
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Conway Olympic Medalist

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Yes you did  _________________ Conway
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Dan Chief Pontificator

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Beats me where I said that... Unless maybe it was the way I worded the first sentence. What I meant is that I didn't realize who the authors were until going back and looking at the reviews a second time, not that I didn't realize they were respected (which I already knew they are).
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Paul Olympic Medalist

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 10:21 am Post subject: |
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I got the impression that you meant you weren't absolutely positive if you had spoken to one of them, not that you didn't have a positive conversation with one of them.
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Dan Chief Pontificator

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 10:29 am Post subject: |
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That too. I know I've spoken with one of them, and I believe I've chatted with the other but am not entirely sure about that.
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Conway Olympic Medalist

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm ... Ok ... If you say so ... LOL .... Anyway they are two of the better minds of the sport (at least as far as historical knowledge bases would go) ... And their analyses are quite inciteful ... LOL _________________ Conway
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