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Dan · Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2001 8:35 am Post subject:

European Championships?

Dan

Justin · Varsity Joined: 08 Oct 2001 Posts: 312 Location: London

Hi All

On Robert Taylor, he actually ran his lifetime best of 10.16 in the same Munich qf that Borzov ran 10.07 - also his lifetime best. Taylor only had time to do a few quick stretches, although I imagine that the adrenlin of the dash to the stadium was probably a very effective warm-up!

The US attitude to Borzov's win was best summed up in the headline "The World'S Fastest Man Is A Commie" the next day. Good though Hart and Robinson were, had they been in the race they would simply have pushed Borzov to run faster. Borzov was one of the greats.

Good game this Conway - name this race:

9.97
10.03
10.06
10.06
10.15
10.19

Justin

Conway · Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2001 12:05 pm Post subject:

Let's see ... Dan .. Yes the European Championships ... You named them all EXCEPT the Euros ...

Justin was absolutely right about the 72 Olympics ... Althogh I think Hart showed on the anchor of the relay that he would have been a match for Borzov .. No lock mind you .. but they may have made each other run the first legitimate sub 10.00 !!!

As for Justin's race that was agood one .. At first glance I was tempted to say Goteborg in 95 ... But looking beyond the first couple of places I believe it to be Zurich '83 ... That would be:

1. 9.97 Calvin Smith
2. 10.03 Mel Lattany
3. 10.06 Ron Brown
4. 10.06 Emmitt King

And if I am not mistaken was the second time Calvin Smith broke 10.00 following his WR 9.93 earlier in the year ... Legitimizing his WR ... Was also equal to Carl Lewis' best time that year set earlier at Modesto (I was at that race !!)

So here is another Dan, Justin, Micah name this race !!

1. 9.93
2. 9.97
3. 10.00
4. 10.04
5. 10.07
6. 10.08
7. 10.09

Look familiar ???

Dan · Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2001 12:34 pm Post subject:

Hmm, I'm thinking this one is a trick question involving Ben Johnson...? Here's what I was able to find:

'88 Zurich Meet, round 2:
1) Carl Lewis
2) Calvin Smith
3) ???
4) Chidi Imoh
5) Linford Christie
6) Dennis Mitchell
7) Raymond Stewart

No mention of third place, so I'm guessing that was Ben and his mark was removed but places were not adjusted because it wasn't a championship meet?

Dan

Conway · Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2001 4:10 pm Post subject:

Now there you go cheating again .. You're supposed to know these things ... Yes it was Zurich 88 .. Key point there being it was prior to the games and was key to eveyone believing that Carl was ready to do Ben in at the games ... Most of the major players were there and it was Carl's opportunity to show that he was THE MAN going into the games .. And the rest as they say is history ...

Here's one for you ...

1. 22.12
2. 22.12
3. 22.37

Try that ...

AND

1. 49.77
2. 49.79
3. 49.90

Those might keep you busy til I get home from work ... (See I have to do this without aid of files) .. Smile

Dan · Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2001 7:13 pm Post subject:

Conway · Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2001 10:20 pm Post subject:

Yes we'll see how well Justin does ... Although I know he prefers the 100 ... He would most suredly hvae gotten the Zurich race I believe ... Smile

Justin · Varsity Joined: 08 Oct 2001 Posts: 312 Location: London

I have no idea about what I assume are women's 200m and 400m races. 22.12 is very slow...below the radar I'd say.

Lewis's 9.93 in Zurich was actually a WR, equalling Calvin Smith's from 83 and Lewis's own from the 87 WC. Lewis broke those with his 9.92 in Seoul, then ran 9.86 for his fourth 100m WR in 91. If, that is, you exclude Johnson's 9.83 and 9.79.....

Justin

Conway · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2001 8:51 am Post subject:

I'm sure Dan will "figure out" the two races .. The 200 is slow, but is from a major meet ... I guess that would make Marion's run at lst year's World's pedestrian ... Smile

Your Zurich observation brings up an interesting point ... IT is generally acknowledged that Lewis only held the WR in the 100 2 times - his 9.92 (second place finish) in Seoul and his 9.86 at Tokyo .. You give him two more records - his two 9.93's ... I am curious as to how the record books address awarding records that were garnered in races where the record breaker didn't actually win the race !!! There is definitely a "drafting" effect if you will when running behind in a sprint ... And when you are talking about 100ths of a second it seems that should be a major issue ...

The other issue is that Ben's 9.83 was actually ratified ... And while the iaaf just sort of took it away (he never tested positive for the Rome race) was it done "legally" ...

Just some questoins ..

Dan · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2001 9:07 am Post subject:

Ok, Justin had his chance to answer it straight up... Wink

200m: '95 WC in Göteborg:
1) Merlene Ottey
2) Irina Privalova
3) Galina Malchugina

400m: '97 WC in Athens:
1) Cathy Freeman
2) Sandie Richards
3) Jearl Miles-Clark

Close races! Smile

Dan

Conway · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2001 7:02 pm Post subject:

Actually the 200 was not that close ... Or that slow ... The actual winner of that race was Gwen Torrence .. Torrence won in a screaming 21.77 but was DQ'd for a purported lane violation ... And as fast as the 21.77 was it was run INTO a headwind of -2.2mps !!!! Ottey and Privalova were actualloy fighting it out for 2nd at the time the race was run !!!! Smile

Hmmmm ... Let's see ... How about ...

1. 1:45.9
2. 1:45.9
3. 1:46.0

AND

1. 10.15
2. 10.20
3. 10.21
4. 10.24
5. 10.24
6. 10.29

One for you and one for Justin ... Or none for either of you ... Smile

Conway · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2001 8:07 am Post subject:

Is no one going to make an attempt ?? Sad

Dan · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2001 10:16 am Post subject:

Conway · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2001 5:33 pm Post subject:

Ah ... the resources ... Smile

... Well the 800 is the final of the 1972 Olympics

1. 1:45.9 Dave Wottle
2. 1:45.9 Yevgeni Arzhanov
3. 1:46.0 Mike Boit

Wottle of the Borzakovsky type finish ... And the last American to win an 800 title ... Sad

The second is the final of the 1986 Eouropean Championships 100

1. 10.15 Linford Christie
2. 10.20 Steffan Bringman
3. 10.21 Bruno Marie Rose
4. 10.24 Thomas Schroeder
5. 10.24 Allan Wells
6. 10.29 Mike McFarlane

Thought for sure Justin would get this one as it was the changing of the guard for British sprinting ... The end of the Wells era and the emergence of LInford Christie !!!!

Hmmm ... let's see ... How about ???

1. 10.05
2. 10.07
3. 10.09

AND

1. 49.94
2. 50.38
3. 50.40

Both important races ... Wink

3.

Conway · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 7:20 pm Post subject:

No guesses ??? Need hints ??

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