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VIPAM Junior Varsity
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: Best 5000m man for the U.S. |
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Best 5000m man for the U.S. I would have to go with two individual who have recorded good peformances but haven't fully displayed their potential in the event:
Benard Lagat
Alan Webb |
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Dan Chief Pontificator
Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Have Lagat or Webb ever run a 5k on the track professionally?
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Micah Ward Olympic Medalist
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think either of them have. But if we are going to talk potential, how about Galen Rupp? His 2nd place in the 10K at the NCAA's is very impressive. Can he run the 5K too? _________________ blah:`echo _START_ && phpbb:phpinfo(); && echo _END_` |
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VIPAM Junior Varsity
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject: What |
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Micah
Being that Galen is the High School and AJR in the 5000m I guess he could run the 5000m as well. I was impressed by his top 8 finish at last year 2004 World Junior Championship which was won by Augustine Choge (12:57.01 at age 17 in 2004)! |
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graeme Varsity
Joined: 04 Aug 2001 Posts: 451 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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How old is Lagat? I wonder if he'll ever move up. |
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Dan Chief Pontificator
Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I would guess Lagat is about 29, give or take.
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VIPAM Junior Varsity
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Dan do you know who Augustine Choge's manager is...? While he (manager) wasn't there at Augustine's birth world reknown and new U.S. citizen Benard Lagat was and he vouches for Augustine's birth as well as the birth certificate. I agree there are some Africans who aren't sure of they exact birthdate but its not that common now in 2005 and Augustine appears to be his documented age. Still impressive times for such a young athlete I agree! |
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Dan Chief Pontificator
Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Dan do you know who Augustine Choge's manager is...? |
Nope, sorry.
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AM_Runner All-Star
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 776 Location: NYC
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Just thought I would post this about Lagat
He has already run the 5K a few times (set his PR this year at 13:14) he was also a pretty good XC guy back when he was at WSU. so yeah he certainly woul dbe a good 5K guy -if he trained for it... certainly woul dhave a devastating kick if it wasn't drilled out of him...
As far as Webb is concerned he also has already run the 5k he has won the 5K the last two years at Penn... hmmm I think last year was like 13:40's and if I recall this year was faster.... OK looked it up 13:30.25
Biography: Bernard LAGAT (USA)
Sex Weight Height Date of birth Place of birth
M 61 1.75 12 12 1974 Kapsabet (KEN)
Information
Nandi Tribe. Business Management student at Washington State University NCAA Champion 1999 (5000m) & NCAA Indoor Champion 1999 (Mile & 3000m).
PERSONAL BEST
Performance Wind Place Date
800 Metres 1:46.00 Berlin 10 08 2003
1000 Metres 2:18.70 Sydney 14 09 2000
1500 Metres 3:26.34 Bruxelles 24 08 2001
One Mile 3:47.28 Roma 29 06 2001
2000 Metres 4:55.49 Stockholm 30 07 1999
3000 Metres 7:33.51 Monaco 18 08 2000
5000 Metres 13:14.71 Walnut, CA 15 04 2005
SEASON BEST
Performance Wind Place Date
800 Metres 1:47.07 Kingston, JAM 07 05 2005
1500 Metres 3:34.34 Carson, CA 22 05 2005
One Mile 3:51.53 Eugene, OR 04 06 2005
5000 Metres 13:14.71 Walnut, CA 15 04 2005
PROGRESSION
Season Performance Wind Place Date
800 Metres
2004 1:46.96 Walnut, CA 18 04 2004
2003 1:46.00 Berlin 10 08 2003
2002 1:46.90 Palo Alto, CA 30 03 2002
2000 1:46.85 Helsinki 15 06 2000
1999 1:46.06 Köln 08 08 1999
1998 1:46.02 Paris 29 07 1998
1000 Metres
2000 2:18.70 Sydney 14 09 2000
1500 Metres
2004 3:27.40 Zürich 06 08 2004
2003 3:30.55 Zürich 15 08 2003
2002 3:27.91 Monaco 19 07 2002
2001 3:26.34 Bruxelles 24 08 2001
2000 3:28.51 Zürich 11 08 2000
1999 3:30.56 Zürich 11 08 1999
1998 3:34.48 Stuttgart 19 07 1998
1997 3:41.19 1997
1996 3:37.7 A 1996
One Mile
2004 3:57.11 Des Moines, IA 24 04 2004
2003 3:50.21 Eugene, OR 24 05 2003
2002 3:52.63 Eugene 26 05 2002
2001 3:47.28 Roma 29 06 2001
2000 3:49.84 Bruxelles 25 08 2000
2000 Metres
1999 4:55.49 Stockholm 30 07 1999
3000 Metres
2000 7:33.51 Monaco 18 08 2000
5000 Metres
2002 13:19.14 WALNUT, CA 19 04 2002
2001 13:30.54 WALNUT, CA 20 04 2001
2000 13:23.46 WALNUT, CA 14 04 2000
1999 13:36.12 Stanford 07 05 1999 _________________ The long run is what puts the tiger in the cat. |
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Dan Chief Pontificator
Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Wow, I didn't know he had turned in a 13:14. That definitely makes him legit if he were to choose to focus on the event.
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VIPAM Junior Varsity
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:59 am Post subject: Iaasc Songok |
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Iaasc Songok has just threw his name in the hat as a INCREDIBLE 5000m talent (3:30.99 1500m PB 2004) by defeating Eliud Kipchoge twice in two 5000m races. Will Iaasc become another one season wonder like Abrahm Chebii or will his coach Brother Colm continue to steer him to greatness? |
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Dan Chief Pontificator
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | by defeating Eliud Kipchoge twice in two 5000m races. |
And my fantasy roster is none too pleased by it...
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Paul Olympic Medalist
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:41 am Post subject: |
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In a well paced race, I'd go with Bekele. He has that ability to run endlessly at a high rate of speed.
Based on Webb's Pre showing, I could envision a race in the 13:15 range.
Rupp may not have the speed at this point. He did run a sub 7:50 3K, but he hasn't broken 4 for the mile, or even 3:45 for 1500, I think.
Goucher might be the next American to break 13:00 _________________ Paul
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VIPAM Junior Varsity
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: The American to run sub 13 minutes |
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The next American to run sub 13 minutes would have to be Alan Webb as he will have the perfect opportunity as he is entered to run the 5000m vs KENENISA BEKELE at the Super Grand Prix meet in Paris, France. Alan Webb's 10000m debut of 27:34 could have been slightly faster if he was being towed instead of one of the leaders in the field, which bode well on him threatening the 13 minute barrier in France. |
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Angelo Z World Class
Joined: 11 Aug 2007 Posts: 1159 Location: LA, California
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think El Guerrouj if he was a long distance runner. Hes a middle distance runner, and if at that level he beat Bekele, he would do much better if he was long distance. |
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