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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject: Matt Tegenkamp 5k Reply with quote

13:04.90 at DN Galan.

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That has to put him up pretty high on the all-time American list. I've always thought he was one of the more unheralded runners.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I was just logging on to put the same in there I was going to say like 3rd or so I thought
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup 3rd - there were some 13:10's that are not updated here but Matt is 3rd all time now... Holy Cow

5000 METERS
12:58.21 ........ Bob Kennedy (Nik) 96
13:01.15 ....... Sydney Maree (Pum) 85
13:11.25 ...... Adam Goucher (Fila) 99
13:11.77 ..... Meb Keflezighi (Nik) 00
13:11.93 ..... Alberto Salazar (AW) 82
13:12.91 ... Matt Centrowitz (NYAC) 82
13:13.49 .... Bruce Bickford (NBal) 85
13:14.80 ...... Bill McChesney (Or) 82
13:15.06 ...... Marty Liquori (FAA) 77
13:15.44 ........ Doug Padilla (AW) 85
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK updated with Last years results I forgot about Lagat -- He is #4 all time

5000 METERS
12:58.21 ........ Bob Kennedy (Nik) 96
12:59.29 .....Bernard Lagat (Nik) 05
13:01.15 ....... Sydney Maree (Pum) 85
13:04.90 .... Matt Tegenkamp... 06
13:10.19 Adam Goucher (Nik) 05
13:10.86 Alan Webb (Nik) 05
13:11.77 Tim Broe (adi) 05
13:11.77 ..... Meb Keflezighi (Nik) 00
13:11.93 ..... Alberto Salazar (AW) 82
13:12.91 ... Matt Centrowitz (NYAC) 82
13:13.32 Abdi Abdirahman (Nik) 05
13:13.49 .... Bruce Bickford (NBal) 85
13:14.80 ...... Bill McChesney (Or) 82
13:15.06 ...... Marty Liquori (FAA) 77
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very impressive.

I remember a few years back, Ritzenheim was getting major props as the record setting HS'er, but Tegenkamp defeated him at the US Junior XC Nationals at Fort Vancouver across the river from Portland. The extra year of college training (19 and under) obviously helped Tegenkamp on the longer course, but it was clear that this guy who most people knew nothing about was every bit as good as Ritz.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always seen him as good and have heard goo dthings about him - unfortunately like Ritz of late he has had some injury issues. This has been a good year for him with some solid training behind him... I don't think anyone expected him to make that big a jump that quickly though... its huge
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very impressed from the stand point it gets us closer to being competitive !!!! Needs to be under 13:00, but this says he will get there !!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully... Bob Kennedy had the big breakthrough, then had a difficult time getting back to that point.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hoping that there is a collective confidence boost going on within the US distance community right now. Meb and Deena have shown that American runners can run with the best in the marathon and with 4 US runners in the top 10 at Boston this year I think the marathoners may be approaching the "swagger" stage. If that same feeling can filter down to the 10K and 5K guys it could be very interesting in the coming years.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am hoping that too however I have to take a little exception to the Kennedy Comment - I don't think many folks realize how good he was for a long period of time sure he had only the 2 times dipping under 13:00 - however if you look at performances Teg's 13:04.90 only puts him 10th behind a whole slew of Kennedy performances 17 of the 38 times a US runner has been under 13:15 belong to Mr Kennedy 15 of the top 17 times an American ever ran are his... not bad... eh

Time Name Country bday date
12:58.21 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 8/14/1996
12:58.75 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 7/8/1996
12:59.29 Bernard Lagat USA 12.12.74 9/4/2005
13:01.15 Sydney Maree USA 09.09.56 7/27/1985
13:02.93 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 7/22/1994
13:03.37 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 8/16/1995
13:03.57 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 9/1/1998
13:04.04 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 9/7/1996
13:05.18 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 7/14/1998
13:05.54 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 8/11/1999
13:05.93 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 7/8/1994
13:06.12 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 8/30/1996
13:06.62 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 7/7/1997
13:07.71 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 8/13/1997
13:08.43 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 7/7/1999
13:09.64 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 7/21/1995
13:10.19 Adam Goucher USA 18.02.75 7/23/2005
13:10.86 Alan Webb USA 13.01.83 9/4/2005
13:11.25 Adam Goucher USA 18.02.75 8/11/1999
13:11.77 Mebrahtom Keflezighi USA 05.05.75 8/5/2000
13:11.77 Tim Broe USA 20.06.77 7/29/2005
13:11.93 Alberto Salazar USA 07.08.58 7/6/1982
13:12.14 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 5/26/1996
13:12.35 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 8/3/1996
13:12.76 Tim Broe USA 20.06.77 6/24/2005
13:12.91 Matt Centrowitz USA 28.01.55 6/5/1982
13:12.98 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 8/17/1994
13:13.32 Abdihakem Abdirah USA 01.01.77 7/22/2005
13:13.49 Bruce Bickford USA 12.03.57 6/27/1985
13:13.75 Abdihakem Abdirah USA 01.01.7 7/29/2005
13:13.84 Sydney Maree USA 09.09.56 8/25/1989
13:13.93 Tim Broe USA 20.06.77 7/22/2005
13:14.32 Bernard Lagat USA 12.12.74 6/23/2006
13:14.62 Sydney Maree USA 09.09.56 9/10/1986
13:14.71 Bernard Lagat USA 12.12.74 4/15/2005
13:14.80 Bill McChesney USA 08.01.59 8/18/1982
13:14.91 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 7/10/1993

That being said I think we are ready for a few guys to go under 13:10 great field in the UK on Friday

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5000 A
1c KENENISA BEKELE ETH
2c BERNARD LAGAT USA
3c IAN DOBSON USA
4c BRYAN HALL USA
5c ABDI ABDIRAHMAN USA
6c JORGE TORRES USA
7c RYAN KIRKPATRICK USA
8c ADAM GOUCHER USA
9c GALEN RUPP USA
10c DAN LINCOLN USA
11c ELIUD KIPCHOGE KEN
12c AUGUSTINE CHOGE KEN
13c BEN LIMO KEN
14c BONIFACE SONGOK KEN
15c MARK WARMBY GBR
16c REID COOLSAET CAN
17c CRAIG MOTTRAM AUS
PACE CHARLES BETT KEN
PACE CHURCHILL KIPSANG
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That says more about the lack of US competition than anything Kennedy did at the top end... Sure, he ran lots of sub 13:10's, but how is that significant globally for a national record holder?

Besides, the bulk of his faster times came prior to the two sub-13's. It's not like he hit that mark a ton afterward.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree with Dan ... What that shows is how mediocre we've been for far too long !!!! We're at a point where the global standard for being competitive in a major race is somewhere around 12:50, yet here we are talking about how bright the future looks with someone going 13:04 !! Not a great picture ... Good for Teg, but not very bright overall ...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of 5K... Bekele got a nice 1500 at DN Galan, 3:33. Is that a PR for him??
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about PRs, but the top 5k guys all saw fit to be 1500 runners that meet, making a mess of Fantasy scoring...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that is a PR for Bekele ... And all those guys running the 1500 just goes to what I've been preaching forever - that our distance runners need to work more on SPEED !!!

Course I've always been a lone voice in the dark on that one ... And am routinely told I know nothing about distance running ... But in the meantime we keep falling farther and farther behind the rest of the world ...

I guess folk may get a clue when Webb moves up eventually and breaks the AR ...
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